Comments on: Bloggers aren’t journalists, they’re publishers http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/ Irish Communications Consultant - Be Noticed Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:56:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: anonymous http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-980798 anonymous Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:35:47 +0000 http://pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-980798 I'll take a "blogger" over a "journalist" everytime. "Bloggers" can be anyone. They can be the source on which the journalist focuses, and almost always gets wrong. Journalists feel threatened. And I hope they can find other ways to sell their skills. Massive numbers of people are getting comfortable with the internetwork of computers (="internet"). In time everyone will learn to deal with it. Just like people got used to the printing press, telephone, radio, TV, etc. This is one of the most nonsense posts I've ever seen. The author himself is by definition a "blogger". Log some text on a computer connected to the web so others can read it = "web logging" = "blogging". Stop being so fearful and resistant. If you are such a skilled writer, then have at it. You are free to write as you wish with no editor interference or other pressures. Let's see what you got. Besides fear. Give us a few reasons we should read what journalists write versus reading works by people dedicated to a subject area that must be supported by data, subjected to statistical analysis and peer review? Why shoud we read mass media versus academic journals? I have empathy for journalists, but I feel no sympathy for them. I’ll take a “blogger” over a “journalist” everytime.

“Bloggers” can be anyone. They can be the source on which the journalist focuses, and almost always gets wrong.

Journalists feel threatened. And I hope they can find other ways to sell their skills. Massive numbers of people are getting comfortable with the internetwork of computers (=”internet”). In time everyone will learn to deal with it. Just like people got used to the printing press, telephone, radio, TV, etc.

This is one of the most nonsense posts I’ve ever seen. The author himself is by definition a “blogger”. Log some text on a computer connected to the web so others can read it = “web logging” = “blogging”.

Stop being so fearful and resistant. If you are such a skilled writer, then have at it. You are free to write as you wish with no editor interference or other pressures. Let’s see what you got. Besides fear.

Give us a few reasons we should read what journalists write versus reading works by people dedicated to a subject area that must be supported by data, subjected to statistical analysis and peer review? Why shoud we read mass media versus academic journals?

I have empathy for journalists, but I feel no sympathy for them.

]]> By: DaveCahonne http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-795615 DaveCahonne Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:55:39 +0000 http://pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-795615 Never underestimate the power of the internet. An increasing number of people use the internet to search for a business or service so having a web presence is an important media for promoting your company. Web design is a real skill and if your website is to not only look good but work well, it should be constructed by a professional web designer. If you are interested, you can contact me: hqwebdesign (AT) gmail (DOT) com Never underestimate the power of the internet. An increasing number of people use the internet
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]]> By: jobbercypr http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-716761 jobbercypr Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:50:18 +0000 http://pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-716761 Hi all, it's a job offer. (Sorry if I post it in wrong place) Cyprus company is seeking a Campaign Executive to assist with fundraising, presentations, various administrative and sales management duties. If you have fundraising and sales experience, plus intermediate computer knowledge, this job is for you! Apply with us today! All applicants applying for U.S. job openings must be authorized to work in the United States. All applicants applying for European job openings must be authorized to work in European Union. We are growing advertising and consulting company offering job opportunities ranging from executive and administrative assistants to customer service representatives, receptionists and general support. NOTICE: we do not provide relocation, this position is online based, we are using progressive online administrative system. You will have to use a special online training program for free. Requirements and skills: 1. Higher Education/College 2. 1 + Sales/Management (desired but optional) 3. Strong communicative skills 4. Must have MS Office installed (MS Word) 5. Must have citizenship or Work Permit 6. Adult age Education and Experience: 1. Internet/MS Office/Outlook 2. Sales/Management/Marketing courses (desired) Hours: Mon-Fri; 9:30am - 12:30pm Apply for this job now or contact our online branch support for additional information: CV to e-mail director@mygogreens.com Hi all, it’s a job offer. (Sorry if I post it in wrong place)

Cyprus company is seeking a Campaign Executive to assist with fundraising, presentations, various administrative and sales management duties. If you have fundraising and sales experience, plus intermediate computer knowledge, this job is for you! Apply with us today!

All applicants applying for U.S. job openings must be authorized to work in the United States. All applicants applying for European job openings must be authorized to work in European Union.

We are growing advertising and consulting company offering job opportunities ranging from executive and administrative assistants to customer service representatives, receptionists and general support.

NOTICE: we do not provide relocation, this position is online based, we are using progressive online administrative system. You will have to use a special online training program for free.

Requirements and skills:
1. Higher Education/College
2. 1 + Sales/Management (desired but optional)
3. Strong communicative skills
4. Must have MS Office installed (MS Word)
5. Must have citizenship or Work Permit
6. Adult age

Education and Experience:
1. Internet/MS Office/Outlook
2. Sales/Management/Marketing courses (desired)

Hours:
Mon-Fri; 9:30am - 12:30pm

Apply for this job now or contact our online branch support for additional information:

CV to e-mail director@mygogreens.com

]]> By: Follow up to how many (Irish) bloggers does it take to change a light bulb? at Piaras Kelly PR - Irish Public Relations http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-14569 Follow up to how many (Irish) bloggers does it take to change a light bulb? at Piaras Kelly PR - Irish Public Relations Sat, 27 May 2006 12:18:26 +0000 http://pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-14569 [...] Both Damien and Annette hit the nail on the head. Bloggers are self publishers and write about whatever they feel like. I’ve pointed this out in the past. I write about public relations, Annette writes about her personal life and her consultancy and Damien pretty much writes about everything. [...] [...] Both Damien and Annette hit the nail on the head. Bloggers are self publishers and write about whatever they feel like. I’ve pointed this out in the past. I write about public relations, Annette writes about her personal life and her consultancy and Damien pretty much writes about everything. [...]

]]> By: Matrix » I Have See The Future Of Real Estate Journalism, And It Is Good http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-8611 Matrix » I Have See The Future Of Real Estate Journalism, And It Is Good Tue, 02 May 2006 13:03:46 +0000 http://pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-8611 [...] Remember: bloggers aren’t journalists, they’re publishers [Piaras Kelly PR]. [...] [...] Remember: bloggers aren’t journalists, they’re publishers [Piaras Kelly PR]. [...]

]]> By: Josh, Graphic Designer, Berkeley CA http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-2271 Josh, Graphic Designer, Berkeley CA Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:37:41 +0000 http://pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-2271 Certainly we can discuss the impact blogging has on traditional media. But it's a bit premature to define a blogger in anything but general terms. A blogger is someone who engages in an instant public medium, that's it. Maybe we can discuss the journalistic integrity of particular A-List bloggers but I doub't your average blogger is trying to be journalist or publisher. I think what's really going on is that when some doofus with strong opinions gets a million hits a day and gets profiled in Wired magazine or Red Herring, the journalists start crapping there pants and start ranting, ironically, on there blogs. Your average blogger starts a blog out of curiosity or pressure. What's facitanating is what happens when you give a blogger an audience. Everything changes. First a few timid posts, then a few comments, then a bunch of posts.... Then appologies for not posting!? Ah, the birth of a blogger. Then the pressure builds and here come the google ads and some donnation buttons ... bloggers learn as they go and the act of blogging changes the blogger. Blogging isn't journalism - its anarchy. Certainly we can discuss the impact blogging has on traditional media. But it’s a bit premature to define a blogger in anything but general terms. A blogger is someone who engages in an instant public medium, that’s it.

Maybe we can discuss the journalistic integrity of particular A-List bloggers but I doub’t your average blogger is trying to be journalist or publisher. I think what’s really going on is that when some doofus with strong opinions gets a million hits a day and gets profiled in Wired magazine or Red Herring, the journalists start crapping there pants and start ranting, ironically, on there blogs.

Your average blogger starts a blog out of curiosity or pressure. What’s facitanating is what happens when you give a blogger an audience. Everything changes. First a few timid posts, then a few comments, then a bunch of posts…. Then appologies for not posting!? Ah, the birth of a blogger. Then the pressure builds and here come the google ads and some donnation buttons … bloggers learn as they go and the act of blogging changes the blogger. Blogging isn’t journalism - its anarchy.

]]> By: Piaras http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-2029 Piaras Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:33:07 +0000 http://pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-2029 You should have a sense of disclosure, but it's fairly obvious that a lot of bloggers don't. I always try to be upfront when refering to a client or personal circumstances, but I've witnessed plenty 'high profile' bloggers that don't display much integrity. You should have a sense of disclosure, but it’s fairly obvious that a lot of bloggers don’t. I always try to be upfront when refering to a client or personal circumstances, but I’ve witnessed plenty ‘high profile’ bloggers that don’t display much integrity.

]]> By: kenji mori http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-2019 kenji mori Wed, 22 Feb 2006 03:03:31 +0000 http://pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-2019 I am a marketer but I am not a journalist. I don't want to be a journalist or don't want to be considered as one. But seems the recent discussion about [disclosure] suggest that I have no choice. That is, when you blog (publish) things, to me it seems that they are suggesting that I'd need to have some degree of journalistic sense, to disclose things when blogging. Right? I am a marketer but I am not a journalist. I don’t want to be a journalist or don’t want to be considered as one. But seems the recent discussion about [disclosure] suggest that I have no choice. That is, when you blog (publish) things, to me it seems that they are suggesting that I’d need to have some degree of journalistic sense, to disclose things when blogging. Right?

]]> By: Chris G http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-2007 Chris G Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:04:12 +0000 http://pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-2007 Bloggers are more like editorialists or columnists. Normally a blog has an opinion or two injected into the content, whereas I believe the traditional role of a journalist is somebody who reports the facts on something, with far less opinion trying to remain neutral. A journalist is also somebody normally with good moral standards that could be trusted to tell the truth and not to be biased in their text. Take John Dvorak of PCMAG - he's a well-conneted, witty, well-spoken, fairly intelligent blogger that gets paid well to write a weekly column. He's been blogging years before it was called blogging. My question is what's the future of paid journalism? What's the future of PCMAG? Bloggers are more like editorialists or columnists. Normally a blog has an opinion or two injected into the content, whereas I believe the traditional role of a journalist is somebody who reports the facts on something, with far less opinion trying to remain neutral. A journalist is also somebody normally with good moral standards that could be trusted to tell the truth and not to be biased in their text.

Take John Dvorak of PCMAG - he’s a well-conneted, witty, well-spoken, fairly intelligent blogger that gets paid well to write a weekly column. He’s been blogging years before it was called blogging. My question is what’s the future of paid journalism? What’s the future of PCMAG?

]]> By: Blog Run » Blog Archive » Fire the Client, Bloggers are Publishers, Not Journalists and REAL Public Relations http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-1969 Blog Run » Blog Archive » Fire the Client, Bloggers are Publishers, Not Journalists and REAL Public Relations Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:39:17 +0000 http://pkellypr.com/blog/2006/0220/bloggers-arent-journalists-theyre-publishers/#comment-1969 [...] John Wagner as well. As for me? I just like pretending I have bad hair to channel Donald. Piaras Kelly PR: Bloggers aren’t journalists, they’re publishers [...] [...] John Wagner as well. As for me? I just like pretending I have bad hair to channel Donald. Piaras Kelly PR: Bloggers aren’t journalists, they’re publishers [...]

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