Comments on: The Lisbon Treaty http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2008/0513/the-lisbon-treaty/ Irish Communications Consultant - Be Noticed Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:21:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: MaPhRy’s BLOG » Blog Archi » EU-Vertrag durchläuft die Legislative http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2008/0513/the-lisbon-treaty/#comment-350842 MaPhRy’s BLOG » Blog Archi » EU-Vertrag durchläuft die Legislative Fri, 23 May 2008 18:38:03 +0000 http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2008/0513/the-lisbon-treaty/#comment-350842 [...] Gleiches droht nun wieder, und es ist noch offen, ob ein Volksentscheid die Entscheidung den Richtern abnehmen kann, wie es damals war. Denn dieses mal gibt es nur den Irischen (Ablauf der Ratifizierung), und dieser ist doch noch recht offen (siehe auch Piaras Kelly PR). Leider fand über diesen wichtigen Vertrag keine wirkliche Diskussion in diesem Lande statt, geschweige denn, das sich damit ein Normalbürger überhaupt mal auseinandergesetzt hat. Schuld daran ist auch die fehlende Mitbestimmungsmöglichkeit wie sie durch ein nicht ermöglichtes Referendum beschränkt wurde, und so kann man nicht davon ausgehen, das die EU sich weiter in das Bewusstsein der Menschen einprägt, und diese sich als ein Teil dieser Gemeinschaft sehen. Schade eigentlich, denn die EU birgt doch so viele Chancen. [...] [...] Gleiches droht nun wieder, und es ist noch offen, ob ein Volksentscheid die Entscheidung den Richtern abnehmen kann, wie es damals war. Denn dieses mal gibt es nur den Irischen (Ablauf der Ratifizierung), und dieser ist doch noch recht offen (siehe auch Piaras Kelly PR). Leider fand über diesen wichtigen Vertrag keine wirkliche Diskussion in diesem Lande statt, geschweige denn, das sich damit ein Normalbürger überhaupt mal auseinandergesetzt hat. Schuld daran ist auch die fehlende Mitbestimmungsmöglichkeit wie sie durch ein nicht ermöglichtes Referendum beschränkt wurde, und so kann man nicht davon ausgehen, das die EU sich weiter in das Bewusstsein der Menschen einprägt, und diese sich als ein Teil dieser Gemeinschaft sehen. Schade eigentlich, denn die EU birgt doch so viele Chancen. [...]

]]> By: Cian http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2008/0513/the-lisbon-treaty/#comment-343016 Cian Thu, 15 May 2008 14:39:49 +0000 http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2008/0513/the-lisbon-treaty/#comment-343016 Well if they were spending anywhere near that, I'd love to know where the money is going to. Well if they were spending anywhere near that, I’d love to know where the money is going to.

]]> By: Piaras http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2008/0513/the-lisbon-treaty/#comment-342676 Piaras Wed, 14 May 2008 20:44:49 +0000 http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2008/0513/the-lisbon-treaty/#comment-342676 Guess they're not spending 500k like FF on their campaign by the looks of things Guess they’re not spending 500k like FF on their campaign by the looks of things

]]> By: Cian http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2008/0513/the-lisbon-treaty/#comment-342639 Cian Wed, 14 May 2008 18:30:47 +0000 http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2008/0513/the-lisbon-treaty/#comment-342639 What do you think of this?... http://www.cianginty.com/2008/05/fine-gaels-yes.html What do you think of this?…

http://www.cianginty.com/2008/05/fine-gaels-yes.html

]]> By: FutureTaoiseach http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2008/0513/the-lisbon-treaty/#comment-342204 FutureTaoiseach Tue, 13 May 2008 21:05:40 +0000 http://www.pkellypr.com/blog/2008/0513/the-lisbon-treaty/#comment-342204 The reality is that one can be pro-Europe and anti-Lisbon. The Treaty has a number of flaws: A: The loss of over 60 vetoes, including public health, energy, culture, and even tourism and sport. Surely this is step too far, and will leave the Dail and government with little real autonomy on anything. B: I have concerns about Article 93 outlawing "distortions of competition". Libertas say that the European Court of Justice could interpret that as outlawing our 12.5% corporate tax rate. C: The new voting system on the Council of Ministers for Qualified Majority Voting. Before Lisbon, you needed 62% of the countries including 74% of the weighted vote (which each country has a weighted vote) to pass a proposed EU law. Under Lisbon, the weighted vote is being replaced with population size, effectively halving the Irish vote from 2% to 0.9%, while the German vote is doubled from 8% to 16%. To pass something under the new form of Qualified Majority Voting, you will need only 55% of the states to agree, including 65% of the population represented by those states. That will make it harder to block EU laws we don't like. D: The Charter of Fundamental Rights becomes legally-binding. Obviously I am for human rights, but not in favour of giving the ECJ the power to overrule the Irish Supreme Court on what those rights mean in practice. It effectively makes the ECJ a Federal Supreme Court. So I will be voting no. The reality is that one can be pro-Europe and anti-Lisbon. The Treaty has a number of flaws:

A: The loss of over 60 vetoes, including public health, energy, culture, and even tourism and sport. Surely this is step too far, and will leave the Dail and government with little real autonomy on anything.

B: I have concerns about Article 93 outlawing “distortions of competition”. Libertas say that the European Court of Justice could interpret that as outlawing our 12.5% corporate tax rate.

C: The new voting system on the Council of Ministers for Qualified Majority Voting. Before Lisbon, you needed 62% of the countries including 74% of the weighted vote (which each country has a weighted vote) to pass a proposed EU law. Under Lisbon, the weighted vote is being replaced with population size, effectively halving the Irish vote from 2% to 0.9%, while the German vote is doubled from 8% to 16%. To pass something under the new form of Qualified Majority Voting, you will need only 55% of the states to agree, including 65% of the population represented by those states. That will make it harder to block EU laws we don’t like.

D: The Charter of Fundamental Rights becomes legally-binding. Obviously I am for human rights, but not in favour of giving the ECJ the power to overrule the Irish Supreme Court on what those rights mean in practice. It effectively makes the ECJ a Federal Supreme Court.

So I will be voting no.

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